The Armor of God, version 1.0

Breastplate of righteousness? Check. Helmet of salvation? Check.

Garments of vengeance and cloke of zeal? Check, and double check.

Why exactly is the Armor of God as set out in Isaiah 59:17 so different from (yet similar to) the more familiar Armor of God set out in D&C 27? What conclusions should we take from those differences?

11 comments for “The Armor of God, version 1.0

  1. Non-Winter Meat Eater
    August 2, 2007 at 4:02 pm

    It think the differences in describing the Armor of God in Isaiah and D&C illustrate that a different type of armor is needed depending on the particular circumstances involved.

    My understanding of the more militant version of the Armor of God set forth in Isaiah, which includes the garments of vengeance and cloke of zeal, is reserved for rare occasions when the table setup is being disturbed at apologetic conferences.

    (Sorry, Kaimi, I couldn’t resist now that that thread is closed.)

  2. Jacob
    August 2, 2007 at 4:02 pm

    I think it’s because what’s cool with Christ ain’t so cool with the rest of us! (Note: said while grinning!) I don’t think humans need any incentives to cloak ourselves with vengeance. Christ can get away with it though. (Note: see previous note)

  3. Non-Winter Meat Eater
    August 2, 2007 at 4:08 pm

    Perhaps the best demonstration of the more militant Isaiah-version of the Armor of God was when Jesus threw the money changers out of the temple:

    “And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers’ money, and overthrew the tables;” (John 2:15.)

    Note the last four words of that verse. My theory (see #1 above) is validated.

  4. Ray
    August 2, 2007 at 5:20 pm

    Wow. Addressing a closed thread in a manner that addresses the current thread – now that is impressive.

    Differences create differences. (I tried to be more concise, but failed.)

  5. Bob
    August 2, 2007 at 5:52 pm

    Nothing was said of a White Shirt?

  6. August 2, 2007 at 5:55 pm

    I don’t know…

    The verses never resonated with me at all.

    Sounds too much like upgrading a Dungeons and Dragons character.

  7. Jacob
    August 2, 2007 at 6:36 pm

    I now have that cheesy seminary video with the kid who gets drunk and laid, (well, it doesn’t show him getting laid – it shows him going up to a room to be with a girl) and then it shows him as a Nephite soldier taking off his armor to drink some water and then getting stabbed. The lesson I always learned from the video is to beware of white women with hairstyles from the eighties.

  8. August 2, 2007 at 7:17 pm

    Words to live by Jacob.

  9. Jim
    August 2, 2007 at 7:33 pm

    Seems to me that this passage of Isaiah refers to Jesus Christ in his role as the judge of all humanity, whereas D&C 27 (and Ephesians 6, which is almost verbatim the same) refer to us, the followers of Jesus Christ, who have no business seeking vengeance against anyone.

  10. Jan
    August 3, 2007 at 12:45 am

    Kaimi –

    This is terrible ‘netiquette’ but I want to contact you about a closed post/thread and see no contact information for admins at T&S.

    Would you please email me at the addy I furnished (and may delete/not post this one).


  11. August 4, 2007 at 12:07 am

    I think the simple explanation is that the Ephesians/D&C armor is for us, while the Isaiah armor is for the Lord, to execute his vengeance and all that jazz.

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