The great T&S scavenger hunt (a.k.a. “Outsourcing”) *UPDATED

1. Each link in the current “Abbreviated link list” that points to an outdated URL: 4 points. (Please list correct URL in your comment).

2. Each link in the Abbreviated Link List that is completely defunct: 6 points.

2a. Each link in the Abbreviated Link List that has not been updated in at least 6 months: 3 points.

3. Each link in the full blogroll (located at the bottom of the page) that points to an outdated URL: 2 points. (Please list correct URL).

4. Each link in the full blogroll that is completely defunct: 3 points.

4a. Each link in the full blogroll that has not been updated in at least 6 months: 2 points.

5. Each blog listed at but not on the T&S blogroll anywhere: 3 points.

6. Each additional LDS-related blog that we should add, but haven’t yet: 0-4 points, based on judges’ assessment.

Please post your responses in comments.

Only the first commenter to name a link will receive credit for it. So, comment fast if you want the points. (Individual comments are a good idea — don’t save them all up, or you might be pre-empted.)

Winners to be announced in, um, a few days.

87 comments for “The great T&S scavenger hunt (a.k.a. “Outsourcing”) *UPDATED

  1. John Scherer
    October 1, 2007 at 1:56 pm

    Any cash and or fabulous prizes involved??

  2. Kaimi Wenger
    October 1, 2007 at 1:57 pm

    There will indeed be fabulous prizes. I’m not sure about cash, though.

  3. queuno
    October 1, 2007 at 2:12 pm

    In other words, Kaimi is getting tired of site administration.

  4. Kaimi Wenger
    October 1, 2007 at 2:13 pm

    Shh. It’s a secret.

  5. Jacob M
    October 1, 2007 at 2:40 pm

    Why do I have AC/DC’s “Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap” in my head right now?

  6. October 1, 2007 at 3:27 pm

    How many points do I get for pointing out Our Thoughts isn’t listed as a group blog?

  7. Steve Evans
    October 1, 2007 at 3:43 pm

    This is why we got rid of our blogroll.

  8. Liz
    October 1, 2007 at 4:04 pm

    Each link in the current “Abbreviated link list” that points to an outdated URL: 4 points. (Please list correct URL in your comment).

    The link for Nine Moons is old.

    The new one is:

  9. October 1, 2007 at 4:32 pm

    Spinozist Mormon is not active, much to my dismay. I

  10. October 1, 2007 at 4:34 pm

    Please consider adding a link to the Mormon Transhumanists blog:

  11. October 1, 2007 at 4:38 pm

    think you should add the Cultural Hall
    and Hieing to Kolob
    to your blogroll. Both are on ldselect.

  12. Kaimi Wenger
    October 1, 2007 at 4:38 pm


    I thought you dropped your blogroll cause the guy who managed it left for greener pastures.


    Good question. Hmm — 2 points for ya.


    Good catch. At 4 points, you take an early lead.


    Good catch, 3 points for you. And agreed, it’s dismaying.

  13. October 1, 2007 at 4:41 pm

    …suggested you add the Cultural Hall and my blog, Hieing to Kolob. I provided links but it wouldn’t take them

    [Editor: fixed]

  14. John Scherer
    October 1, 2007 at 4:59 pm

    Midwest Bloggin Does not seem to be active.
    Latter Day Bloghas not been unupdated for a while
    KZion Radio Blog has also not been updated
    Job 21:3 is a few years unupdated
    John Bytheway’s blog hasn’t been updated for a few years
    Bloggernacle Times is dead
    Popcorn Popping is dead
    Don’t Let’s Start appears to be dead as well
    Chief Wiggles appears to have gone the way of all the world.
    All this and I barely even looked.

    Whatever happened to the Banner of Heaven?

  15. Julie M. Smith
    October 1, 2007 at 5:38 pm

    “Whatever happened to the Banner of Heaven?”

    Please rescind the question.

  16. October 1, 2007 at 5:59 pm

    For that matter, Kaimi, Our Thoughts is found at and I am just sayign that because everyone else seems to be getting more than 2 points. :)

  17. Steve Evans
    October 1, 2007 at 6:04 pm

    “Whatever happened to the Banner of Heaven?”

    See 3rd Ne. 28.

  18. Steve Evans
    October 1, 2007 at 6:09 pm

    p.s. William Morris would argue that Popcorn Popping isn’t dead. I might argue that too if I had the energy.

    and Kaimi, I think the Baron of Deseret has moved on, making his link obsolete. Plus I think you have the Mormon Wasp URL wrong (should be

  19. Kaimi Wenger
    October 1, 2007 at 6:28 pm

    Useful stuff so far, all. I’m updating some links now. Many hands make light work.

    Feel free to continue . . .

  20. October 1, 2007 at 6:44 pm

    \”I think the Baron of Deseret has moved on, making his link obsolete…\”

    Yup…I\’m at Waters of Mormon ( now if you (hint, hint) wanted to add us…

  21. October 1, 2007 at 7:30 pm

    Should anybody wish to score big points, use this:

  22. MCQ
    October 1, 2007 at 7:33 pm

    Umm, what about this one?
    I hear it’s awesome.

  23. October 1, 2007 at 8:12 pm

    I was totally going to report myself (posting at M* has resulted in a drastic slowdown at my own blog) but I actually posted in July, so never mind. hasn’t been updated since February since 2005

  24. October 1, 2007 at 8:23 pm
  25. October 1, 2007 at 8:25 pm last updated in 2006

  26. October 1, 2007 at 8:26 pm

    The link to was inadvertently targeted to an individual post from a year ago.

  27. October 1, 2007 at 8:27 pm last updated in March

  28. October 1, 2007 at 8:33 pm

    I think you should add links to:

    — the More Good Foundation blog (
    — the Scripture Tag blog (
    — the LDS CIO blog (
    — the LDS Webguy blog (

  29. October 1, 2007 at 8:37 pm last updated in March

  30. Ray
    October 1, 2007 at 8:38 pm

    Are these “Whose Line is it Anyway” points? Did Sarah just qualify to sit behind the desk?

  31. October 1, 2007 at 8:39 pm has a weird “Domain blocked by advertiser” message on it

  32. October 1, 2007 at 8:42 pm

    I don’t understand Ray’s comment, but I don’t watch that show. I just enjoy this sort of vaguely mundane work — I weed my blogroll with enthusiasm when I sit down to do it. (“Learning to Fly” under Law & Politics) gave me a 404 error.

  33. October 1, 2007 at 8:43 pm (“Half Canadian” under Law & Politics) hasn’t been updated since 2005.

  34. October 1, 2007 at 8:45 pm (“My World” under Arts & Culture) hasn’t been updated since 2004.

  35. October 1, 2007 at 8:46 pm
  36. October 1, 2007 at 8:49 pm (United Brethren under “Mormon Themes”) gives a 404 error.

  37. October 1, 2007 at 8:53 pm has moved to, and was last updated in May, so it only sort-of counts as “inactive” under Kaimi’s standards.

  38. October 1, 2007 at 8:54 pm appears to have been taken over by someone new.

  39. October 1, 2007 at 8:56 pm last updated in January

  40. October 1, 2007 at 8:59 pm

    Kaimi, if this is bugging you, let me know. ^_^

    I’m not sure why someone said KZion’s blog isn’t around – was updated today. has closed down — first it moved to and then the owner started a new (“family”) blog here:

  41. October 1, 2007 at 9:01 pm last updated in March 2006

  42. Adam Greenwood
    October 1, 2007 at 9:10 pm

    This is great, Sarah. Wow, we’re creaky.

  43. October 1, 2007 at 9:35 pm

    Question rescinded, Julie.

  44. October 1, 2007 at 9:37 pm

    The FAIR message board is now defunct.

  45. Kaimi Wenger
    October 1, 2007 at 9:44 pm

    This is good stuff, Sarah. I think you’re the point leader, at present. :)

  46. October 1, 2007 at 10:13 pm

    Had to take a break for “Heroes,” but I’m back now. has moved to

  47. October 1, 2007 at 10:15 pm
  48. October 1, 2007 at 10:16 pm last updated in February

  49. October 1, 2007 at 10:17 pm last updated in April (will reach your six-month point in one week)

  50. October 1, 2007 at 10:19 pm last updated in May 2005, moved to, at some point was deactivated by due to inactivity

  51. October 1, 2007 at 10:20 pm (“Explorations” in Mormon Themes) last updated in August, 2006

  52. October 1, 2007 at 10:23 pm (“Chris Goble” in Mormon Themes) hasn’t been updated since June, 2006

  53. October 1, 2007 at 10:32 pm

    Okay, I’ve done the entire blog section of your link list, either by clicking on it tonight or clicking on it recently enough through my own reading that I know it’s active (e.g. Mormanity.) Note that in at least one case it appears that the same blog is linked to in the abbreviated link list and in the full blogroll, and while the one in the full blogroll is wrong, the one on the shorter list is correct (The Iron Rod appears to be an example of this, the Spinozist Mormon is definitely an example of this.)

    LDS Liberation Front is another special case: I referenced the link that was in the full blogroll in comment #47, but the one that’s in the short link list,, hasn’t been updated since March.

    A Bird’s Eye View, in the abbreviated link list, has moved from to

    Do you guys want people to look at your “Other Links” list, too?

  54. marta
    October 1, 2007 at 10:33 pm

    Is Sarah a permablogger yet?

  55. Curtis DeGraw
    October 1, 2007 at 10:37 pm

    Did I miss something? Is this a paid gig? *grin*

    Seriously, Sarah, this is impressive. I feel like I do when I see my father-in-law’s genealogical research – awestruck and slightly ashamed – and incredulous.

  56. Kaimi Wenger
    October 1, 2007 at 10:42 pm

    Sarah, you rock. I’m making updates from your comments, and our blogroll is looking better than it has for years.

    You’re welcome to look at the Other Links, too. You’ve already done an incredible job on the blogroll — thanks again.

  57. October 1, 2007 at 10:50 pm

    Marta – yes, at M*. Though I can never come up with something interesting to write. (Geoff et al: if you guys want me to do this there I can, but I don’t know how to edit our sidebar!)

    Curtis – I find this sort of thing vaguely enjoyable. It might not surprise you to learn that I like genealogy, too; before she went to law school, my mom was effectively a full-time genealogist. The stake has made her the official genealogy cheerleader: part of my assignment package while she homeschooled me was to help her with her research. Now I help her with her law firm in exchange for a rent-free lifestyle. ^_^

    I figured I’d start with the extra links list while you guys decide whether you want it checked or not. (“Element” under Church-Related Sites) — defaults to the main page. is the right url, but you’re currently making it go to “” which I think is just an HTML error. appears to be changing its name slightly to “Mormon Literature and Creative Arts”

  58. October 1, 2007 at 10:58 pm goes to a 404 error, because you put a “/” after the .html generates a freaky Blogger error page, and the main URL ( seems to be messed up, too. redirects to the main page goes to a 404 error

    The FAIR message board has been discontinued to focus on; the message board function has been replaced by

    It might be temporary, but I can’t reach the server at

  59. October 1, 2007 at 11:08 pm

    I think I may be getting flagged as a spammer. I wouldn’t be surprised. If my last comment doesn’t come through, I have it saved in a .txt file. is gone, there’s stupid advertising there now.

    Mormon Monastery ( hasn’t been updated in over a year. You’ve also got two different links, right next to each other, which both go there.

    You made your Christianity Today link go to a specific article from 2003 (

  60. Karen
    October 1, 2007 at 11:12 pm

    Sarah Darling,
    If this is the Sarah I think it is, this is your mother.
    Go to bed.

  61. Ray
    October 1, 2007 at 11:17 pm

    I would like to nominate Karen’s #60 as comment of the year.

  62. October 1, 2007 at 11:17 pm

    Hah, my post between 10:50 and 11:08 HAS been eaten. Like I said, I still have it if the T&S engine doesn’t have it stuck somewhere. Demands a password for access. hasn’t been updated since 2005 has moved to has dissolved, and its authors have all gone off to (several) different individual blogs. works, but I wanted to just mention that it’s a not-very-kind anti-cult site.

    I have now clicked on all the links in the “Other Links” section, except the ones that I visit often enough that, well, I just don’t expect not to be there (e.g. Beliefnet.)

  63. October 1, 2007 at 11:18 pm

    My mom’s name is Ann. ^_^

  64. Kaimi Wenger
    October 1, 2007 at 11:21 pm

    I found one of yours in the Akismet filter, and let it free.

    And I’m happy to hear that we’re not getting you in trouble with your mother. :)

  65. Adam Greenwood
    October 1, 2007 at 11:34 pm

    When we were first kicking around the idea of starting a blog, we were pretty keen on the name ‘Protocols of the Elders of Zion.’ And then we discovered that some gentiles of the jewish persuasion had already taken the name. How dare they go under!

  66. October 1, 2007 at 11:38 pm

    Woot! My missing post has returned!

    Some other (non-bloggy) link suggestions:

    — a few of the bigger LDS related things on Facebook, e.g.: (the only group with the exact name of the Church spelled correctly, has tons of members) (the only popular LDS application, serves up photos of your LDS friends and random scriptures)

    — the Church music webpage (

    — HymnWiki (

    — Mormon Fortress (

    — Mormon Testimonies (

    — a single category for the various aggregators, to include new ones not already indexed (, for instance, won’t work if people don’t actually use it.)

    (I also think there are some better general “what is this religion” websites out there than the ones you’ve got for the individual denominations: I’m sure there are better “UU 101” sites than, for non-UUs — comes to mind right away.)

  67. Kaimi Wenger
    October 1, 2007 at 11:43 pm

    In retrospect, Adam, _not_ using that title was a very good move on our part.

  68. October 1, 2007 at 11:46 pm

    Okay, I think I’m done for now. Somehow I’m in the mood to key ISBNs into my LibraryThing account… weird how hypnotic this kind of work is.

  69. Kaimi Wenger
    October 1, 2007 at 11:51 pm

    You’re awesome, Sarah. This is very helpful. I’ll see what kind of fabulous prizes we can shake up.

  70. October 2, 2007 at 12:08 am

    No problem, Kaimi. Like I said, I sort of enjoy this kind of activity. Makes me feel like I’ve accomplished something with my day.

  71. Adam Greenwood
    October 2, 2007 at 12:18 am

    “Protocols of the -mumble- of Zion” has a ring to it.

  72. October 2, 2007 at 1:45 am

    Pardon the interruption Sarah- if Kaimi is giving away freebies, l’d like one, maybe at the bottom? Could you put in a good word for me? Thanks!

  73. meems
    October 2, 2007 at 7:08 am

    Mormon Mommy Wars is an old one. It goes to their former site. Do I get 4 points?

  74. October 2, 2007 at 7:08 am

    Connor, thank you for your comment #21. I didn’t know about that Firefox extension and I think it could come in extremely handy.

  75. October 2, 2007 at 7:35 am

    I checked out that link checker Firefox plugin (linked by Connor in comment #21) and it should be noted that it processes all the links on a page one by one. It doesn’t just check our blogroll – it checks every single link that appears on the page anywhere. Since blogs have links all over the place, you can sit there and watch as the plugin highlights the links one by one – turning the good links green and the bad links grey or red.

    You have to give it a few minutes to go through all the links – but it’s much quicker than doing the work manually.

    I’m surprised there isn’t a WordPress plugin that does this sort of thing.

  76. October 2, 2007 at 10:01 am

    The extension doesn’t do everything Kaimi was looking for (which is why I didn’t really bother with it yesterday — I’d still have to check the overwhelming majority of links by hand, because they were green but hadn’t been updated, or were replaced by advertising, or demanding a password, or whatever.) It marked more than half the links I flagged as “green.”

    Oh, and the grey links aren’t bad — they’re skipped. Running it on this page right now gives M* dozens of grey links, because it already checked M* on my first comment. And a lot of the non-updated blogs are greyed out on the second instance, because I included their URLs in my comments yesterday.

    It’s a good tool, but it only goes after the truly dead stuff.

  77. October 2, 2007 at 12:48 pm

    Here’s a blog that’s not listed either at, or here, or anywhere, as far as I can tell. Well, it’s on my blogroll, but considering my low traffic, that’s as good as nowhere.

  78. October 2, 2007 at 1:25 pm

    I just read a few posts at Mormonides, JDP, and laughed my silly head off. Thanks!

  79. John Scherer
    October 2, 2007 at 1:49 pm

    Some fun links you might consider (satire) (BOM related cartoons and games for kids)

  80. Edje
    October 2, 2007 at 2:19 pm

    I third the recommendation on Mormonides.

  81. S.P. Bailey
    October 2, 2007 at 4:05 pm

    Popcorn Popping lives at

    (It hasn’t been updated for a little while, but the editors are working behind the scenes. Popcorn Popping will rise again.)

  82. Rick
    October 2, 2007 at 9:08 pm

    Byteline ( by Alma Allred is very interesting. He has lately been running a multi-part history of the fundamentalist sects and schisms, with many fascinating details from his personal experiences. I don’t believe it is currently in your list.

  83. Ann
    October 3, 2007 at 2:45 am

    Christian has updated Spinozist in the past on GC weekends. You should leave him until Monday.

  84. October 4, 2007 at 2:37 pm

    The link in the right sidebar to your Truth Laid Bear ranking has an extra quote mark in the link that breaks it. While editing the text to say “Mormon Marsupial” was clever, it makes the information inaccurate. You’re listed at the bottom of the page as a “large mammal”. Perhaps you’ve left your “marauding marsupial” days behind you for good. :)

  85. November 3, 2007 at 12:10 pm

    Possible candidate for the \”arts and culture\” blogroll category. It\’s not exclusively LDS-topic centered, but is written by the emerging demographic of \”permanent adolescent\” thirty-something Peter Pan\’s.

  86. Sara R
    November 9, 2007 at 9:47 pm

    Wilkinson Quintuplets in Austin, Texas

    The parents are Mormon (graduated from BYU in 1999). The babies are 3 months old. And here is the famous projectile vomit picture (thanks for the link, Kage!)

  87. February 6, 2008 at 6:59 pm

    How about Old Right conservatism from an LDS perspective, plus the expected cultural, social commentary? It’s called “Mormon Paleo Thought.”

    Not sure if this is too late or not, but I want the points!

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